Who's Number 3?

A common discussion point (argument?) among fans of the Pittsburgh Steelers is, "Who's the greatest Steelers quarterback of all-time, Terry Bradshaw or Ben Roethlisberger?"  No one else is ever even mentioned in the discussion, so that got me to thinking, which Steelers QB would rank third on the list of Steelers' signal callers?

My own memory of Steelers quarterbacks goes back to Bobby Layne, a Hall of Famer, but one whose greatest years were with the Lions, and not the Steelers, and that is where I will begin this discussion.Those of you out there who want to make a case for guys like Jim Finks, Ted Marchibroda, Joe Geri, or Buss Warren, have at it, but I will begin with Layne.

Just to refresh your memories, here is a chronological list of every person who has started a game at quarterback for the Steelers since 1957:

Earl Morrall
Lenny Dawson (1 game; his HOF career began when the AFL was born)
Bobby Layne
Rudy Bukich
Ed Brown
Bill Nelson
Tommy Wade
Ron Smith
George Izo
Kent Nix
Dick Shiner
Terry Hanratty
Terry Bradshaw
Joe Gilliam
Mike Kruczek
Cliff Stoudt
Mark Malone
Steve Bono
Todd Blackledge
Bubby Brister
Neil O'Donnell
Mike Tomczak
Jim Miller
Kordell Stewart
Kent Graham
Tommy Maddox
Ben Roethlisberger
Charlie Batch
Dennis Dixon
Byron Leftwich
Michael Vick
Landry Jones

Be honest now, how many of those names had you forgotten, or never even heard of in the first place?  

So, how do you pick the guy who you would make the third string QB on the all-time Steelers team?  

If you go purely by games started, you would take Stewart (75 starts) ahead of O'Donnell (61), Brister (57), and Layne (51).

If you go by completion percentage, O'Donnell (57.1%) edges Stewart (56.5%) and Brister (52.5%).  Interestingly, all three of them are ahead of both Bradshaw (51.9%) and Layne (49.2%).

In terms of touchdown passes, Stewart (70) edges O'Donnell (68), Layne (66), and Brister (51).  

How about total yards passing? Stewart has 13,328 yards, which is 461 yards more than O'Donnell and 3,224 yards more than Brister.  Layne had 9,030 yards as a Steeler, almost 4,300 behind Stewart.

Interceptions O'Donnell rates best here with only 39 interceptions. Brister threw 51, Layne  had 78, and Stewart had 72.  However, we all know that two specific interceptions from O'Donnell stand out above almost all others ever thrown by ANY Steelers QB.

Finally, how about the one stat that nobody really understands, "Quarterback Rating"?  Here is how it stands among all six QBs with the most starts:

Roethlisberger  93.9 (through the 2014 season, per Wikipedia)
O'Donnell  81.0
Stewart  72.3
Bradshaw  70.9
Brister  69.8
Layne  65.5

Looking only at the numbers, it would seem that the choice would come down to either Neil O'Donnell or Kordell Stewart.  O'Donnell took the Steelers to a Super Bowl.  Stewart was a phenomenal athlete who could do more things on the field than O'Donnell could, and who, it could be argued was shackled by some of his coaches (Kevin Gilbride, most notably).

Flip a coin, but my vote on this all important question would go to Kordell Stewart.  I'll listen to alternate arguments.

There is one thing that we all should keep in mind.  It took the Steelers thirty-seven years to get Terry Bradshaw, and we all know what he accomplished.  Once Bradshaw retired in 1983, it was another twenty-one years before Ben Roethlisberger arrived, and you all know what he has and still is accomplishing.  You can see from that list above what the Steelers and their fans had to put up with over those twenty-one years.  How many more great seasons are left in Roethlisberger? Three or four, maybe five? Let's hope the Steelers don't have to wait another twenty-one years to find his replacement.

(My thanks to Wikipedia - so you know it's true! - for the names and the stats used in writing this piece.)

Kordell and Kaepernick

That was a most interesting story in the PG this morning by Ed Bouchette comparing Kordell Stewart and Colin Kaepernick (and other running QB's currently in the NFL like Robert Griffin, Russell Wilson, and Cam Newton).

In case you missed it, Bouchette's thrust was that Stewart came into the NFL in the late '90s and was every bit the talent that Kaepernick, Griffin and the others are today, but he came in at a time when pro coaches didn't know what to do with him.  The story of Stewart being reamed out by neanderthal offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride for not staying in the pocket after he ran for a 45 yard touchdown is a classic.  I believe that Gilbride is still actually working as an OC in the NFL.  What a world.

Believe it or not, I thought of Stewart and his career with the Steelers at one point during these playoffs while watching Kaepernick and Wilson play.  Stewart is pretty much looked upon as a failure as a Steelers QB, largely because of a couple of losses in AFC Championship games (never mind that Stewart was the QB who got them to that point in those seasons).  Too bad, because I think Stewart, along with Neil O'Donnell,  was probably the best Steelers QB in the bridge between the Bradshaw and Roethlisberger Eras.  It's too bad that his coaches did not try to utilize him in a way that best suited his talents.  As Bouchette stated, perhaps he was just born too early.